PENTECOST IN 4TH MONTH QUESTIONS

I challenge anyone to find a feast/Chag

mentioned in the 3^rd month for a

3^rd month Pentecost. I challenge anyone

 to even find a wheat harvest in the 3^rd

month for a 3^rd month Pentecost.

Here are some of my notes on what the Scripture teaches is the true count to Pentecost, which is 50 days “after” the 7^th Sabbath complete, not 50 days after the wave sheaf or 1^st Sabbath (Lev-23:16) ¹⁶Even unto the morrow “after” the seventh sabbath shall ye number fifty days; and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto”   NOT before.

It makes no difference how we think a verse of Scripture should be understood and interpreted but how the Holy men of old understood and interpreted the verse, and this is true with Leviticus 23:16 where it says, “even unto the morrow “after” the seventh Sabbath shall ye number 50 days and ye shall offer a new meat offering unto YHWH.”

When considering the correct understanding and interpretation of Leviticus 23:16, whether we should number 50 days from the wave sheaf or number 50 days AFTER the seventh Sabbath, we should consider the following questions.  One interpretation puts Pentecost in the beginning of the third month and the other interpretation puts Pentecost at the end of the fourth month.

 So not counting the Scripture in question, let's consider the following which will show that there's NOT even a feast in the third month for a third month Pentecost, also it will show that there is NOT even a harvest in the third month for a third month Pentecost feast and that the Law was NOT even giving to Moses in the third month to commemorate Pentecost,

Questions and Answers

Q: Is there a “third” month feast mentioned anywhere in Scripture?

 A: No.  I challenge anyone to find only one.

     Q: Is there a “fourth” month feast mentioned in Scripture?

 A: Yes -Exodus 32:5 YHWH’S High Priest proclaimed it. 

     Q: Was this feast one of the 3 Chag feast of the year?

 A: Yes-the Hebrew word feast is Chag in Exodus 32:5.

     Q: Was it at the end of the 4th month?

 A: Yes, and it was exactly 50 days after the seventh “Lunar” Sabbath complete.

     Q: Would this count work with the traditional Saturday Sabbath?

 A: No, you would have two extra days because of the new moon days which are not counted in counting out Lunar weeks.

     Q: If there is not a third month feasts in Scripture, does the Scripture say to prove all things?

 A: Yes - 1 Thessalonians 5:21.

  A: Traditions of man.

I could stop here or even at the first question “Is there a “third” month feast mentioned anywhere in Scripture?” and it should be more than enough to convince any honest hearted person who wants to know the truth, to take a second look at their doctrine, but I will continue on with more questions and answers for those who wants to know the truth.

     Q: If we cannot find a 3rd month feast in Scripture for a third month Pentecost, can we find a wheat harvest in the third month?

 A: No, the only conclusive wheat harvest found in Scripture is summer wheat harvest which is in the fourth month. Proverbs 10:5, Proverbs 26:1, Isaiah 18:4-6, Jeremiah 8: 20, Jeremiah 40: 10 -12, Jeremiah 48: 32, Daniel 2:35, Amos 8: 1-5, Micah 7:1

        Q: Does a “No” 3rd month feast and a “No” 3rd month wheat harvest equal (=) a “No” third month Pentecost?

 A: Yes, a no third month feast and a no third month wheat harvest equal's a no third month Pentecost unless you're following the traditions of men.

Q: Was the Old Testament Scripture written for our example?

 A: Yes - 1 Corinthians 10:6-11.

    Q: If there are no examples of a third month feast “or” a third month wheat harvest, why should we keep a third month Pentecost?

 A: We should not keep a third month Pentecost for the obvious reasons above.

I could probably stop here because I have shown where there was no feast in the third month, no wheat harvest in the third month, Etc. now I will show there was no Law giving in the third month and I believe Pentecost commemorates the giving of the Law so I will give a few more questions and answers.

Q: Was the Law given in the third month?

A: No,

    Q: Was the Law given in the fourth month?

A: Yes, Ex-31:18, Deut-9:11

   Q: Can Ex-19:1 be understood that Moses came to the Mount on the same day they went forth out of Egypt?

A: Yes, and at the end of 40 days and 40 nights in the mount would be the end of the 4^th month, and the day that the Law was given to Moses and the same day that Aaron said was a Chag/FEAST to YHWH/Pentecost it was also 50 days AFTER the 7^th Lunar Sabbath complete.

A: Yes, Philo shows that the 50th day count to Pentecost “begins” the morrow “AFTER” the seventh Sabbath complete NOT from the wave sheaf, and therefore the 50th day after the WAVE SHEAF is NOT Pentecost BUT was observed by some zealous Jews as a Prelude or kind of forefeast to Pentecost.

Below are plain instructions from men that lived at that time, which show that the 50th day is counted from the day “after” the seventh Sabbath complete.

Quoting from Philo The Special Laws 11 page 584, chapter 30 (176)

“THE SEVENTH FESTIVAL
XXX. (176) The “solemn assembly” on the occasion of the “festival” of the sheaf having such great privileges, is the “prelude” to “another” festival of still “greater importance”; for from “this day” the “fiftieth day” is reckoned, making up the sacred number of seven sevens, with the addition of a “unit” as a seal to the whole; and this festival, being that of the first fruits of the corn, has derived its name of Pentecost from the number of “fifty,”

From the above we see they kept the 16th of the 1st month as a feast and solemn assembly when they waved the sheaf and it was called a “prelude” (or introduction) to “ANOTHER” feast that was “more important” than the “first” feast/16th that was held on the 16th (Why?) because it was from “this feast” that the 50th day is reckoned which consists of seven sevens plus one which equals 50 which means Pentecost. (How much plainer can it get?????)

This 2nd feast that is more important than the 1st feast, or 16th, is the morrow after the seventh Sabbath complete and is the day that people are keeping for the traditional Pentecost, but according to chapter 30 above it is the feast that is “greater” than that of the “wave sheaf” feast because the 50th day is reckoned from it, (the greater feast) and Pentecost is the “GREATEST” feast. This is in harmony with Lev-23 where it says “even unto the morrow AFTER the seventh Sabbath shall you number fifty days and then bring a new meat offering”.

For more details and an eyewitness Click Here

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I could stop here but I will add one more proof found in nature of a 4^th month Pentecost.  The true Pentecost ALWAYS had ripe grapes present

Even on the day of Pentecost when they were being accused of being drunk with "new" wine, which is not found in the third month for the traditional Pentecost because it is Agriculturally imposable  and in the book of Acts, Peter said this is that it was spoken by the prophet Joel and when you look at the prophet Joel you see where he said that the floors would be full of wheat and the fats full of wine.  Once again there is no new wine in the third month to fulfill this prophecy. Please Click the link above. There is too much proof for me to mention here but you can Click on the link below and you will see how Paul kept Pentecost beyond the traditional Pentecost count and how it must be at the Years turning, i.e. you have 1 feast in the spring, 1 in the summer, and 1 in the fall instead if 2 in the spring, NONE in the summer and 1 in the fall.

See Moon Phases at

http://www.calculatorcat.com/moon_phases/moon_phases.phtml

Brother Arnold